• http://flavors.me/40deuce 40deuce

    Cool infograph!

    Cheers,
    Sheldon, community manager for Sysomos (http://sysomos.com)

  • Travis

    Love this,

    Thanks.

  • Roger

    no mention do http://www.mixcloud.com ? unbelievable!

  • http://twitter.com/lindsaycasey Lindsay Casey

    Very cool – says a lot!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Thanks + it’d be great to know if that 31% has changed at all since that report in Feb. 2010. The graphic assumes that it’s still the same.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    LOL nice reaction. I didn’t think about Mixcloud but (like many others) it’d have been below the 100k visits/month minimum. Mixcloud stats were 43k visits/month (+64% growth in 2010). I’ll keep it on the radar for 2011. Thx:)

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Right on :)

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Thank you—let’s hope it didn’t make anyone’s brain explode!

  • rob

    …and no mention http://wearehunted.com either. But I imagine there are probably a bunch of ‘ouposts’ not mentioned even if the traffic is comparable with many of the players on the heat map.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    WAH would have been on the map I’d remembered it—next year for sure. It’s impossible to remember every site—thanks for the heads up. WAH estimated traffic is 169k visits/month with 274% growth in 2010.

    I guess I had them in my mind more as an API which I included in that list last month. The best part is I just looked at their ‘discover’ chart and my cousin Sharon was #13. I have to give their algorithm props for that. :)

    On their about page it says they’re powered by YouTube, MySpace, Spotify, and Boxee. In the sidebar there’s a link to SoundCloud. Are they powered by SoundCloud too, affiliated with them, or is that random?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVMSWS3QJW2GARMXGNWXYHJHJY flora

    Half asleep, looking for streaming music. I got so much more! Great, entertaining, informative, “wake-up”! o-FLO-n

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  • http://daualset.tumblr.com daualset

    where is stereomood.com? ;)

  • http://twitter.com/youts69 captain haddock

    2010 Music Website Heat Map

  • http://mg8.org/ clee

    I wonder how different this would look if the primary metric were the amount of money paid out to the artists, instead of the number of hits. Sure, Youtube gets more hits than everything else combined several times over… but how much money is it generating for the artists?

  • Anonymous

    That would be an awesome thing to know – especially if we could graph it against what their traditional forms of music sales make them (in terms of royalties actually paid to the artists, not bulk cd sales figures). I know that ASCAP ‘pays’ artists, but unless you’re super famous, you get about 50 cents a year, at least according to Zoë Keating.

  • Joe

    Where’s Zune? According to Compete they’d be #16 on traffic and #14 for YoY growth.

    Aside from some of the glaring omissions, the raw data is interesting, but I don’t buy the visualization. Music services that rely mainly on clients (as opposed to web) for download/streaming consumption – iTunes, Zune, even Pandora – are not accurately represented. I would think Compete’s data doesn’t count mobile apps, which would make Pandora even larger than you’ve depicted.

  • http://sampledandsorted.com davidporter

    Ryan – this is awesome.

    Would love to see our service (8tracks) in the mix next time. We hit 1.5m uniques (per Google Analytics) in Jan. (Compete had us at 202k visitors in Dec, for comparison.)

  • Anonymous

    Is this US music consumption? What about international? YouTube, Last.fm, eMusic, all have international traffic that’s completely on fire. Probably much bigger growth curves than inside the US.

    Would love to see this again with more global data represented.

    But excellent visualization.

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  • http://www.attrip.jp attrip

    where the 8tracks?

  • DM

    Where is MTV on here then… it should be as big as Playlist.com?

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  • http://charliesaidthat.com/digital Charliesaidthat

    This is great! Thanks! I would love (as others have said) to see some revenue for artists mapped in a similar way.

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  • http://wolfwhistle.org Amy

    Love this. Factual charts about the internet blow my mind and the fact that this is about music makes it even better! I only really use Last FM and Hypem – although I guess I occasionally use YouTube for music, too. Spotify decided to quit working on my laptop last summer so I’ve given up with it…

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Thank you! 8tracks will def. be on it next year David. I hadn’t seen it before as far as I can remember LOL—thanks for the head’s up. I like the easy embedding and commenting—and the 8 limitation. Is 8tracks sourced from another library or is it its own? How do bands get their music there?

    On the map I used the “visits” metric rather than unique visitors b/c IMO they are more telling. I’d have 8tracks on there for 741k visits/month and a screaming +394% in 2010—the same size as Thumbplay Music and very green. There is a margin of error w/ Compete vs. actual stats. The map is graded on a curve so to speak since every site is affected by that. The bigger a site is, the more data Compete has, and the more relatively accurate it is.

  • http://blog.cheetahdeals.com CheetahDeals Blog

    Wow, this is brilliant. This is exactly the sort of information that I was looking for, and perfectly arrayed. Bravo.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    awesome :)

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    I didn’t think of Zune and will try to include it next year. It may be impossible though to get an accurate number on just the music portion of it—at least via Compete. When you put in zune.net or social.music.net you’re seeing numbers that include TV, movies, podcasts, etc. (That’s the same reason I couldn’t get data for MySpace Music this year. If you put in myspace.com/music then Compete will give you data for all of myspace.com.) Let me know what others you think need to be on next year. It’s impossible to remember everything on my own. Thx!

    I agree to an extent about the accuracy. That’s why I referred to music consumption on the web and the relative differences. I want to write to Compete to find out more details on their methodology and to what extent they track mobile usage. Visits from a mobile web browser like the iPhone’s Safari are most likely tracked. As for app usage, or visits directly from an app, I’m not sure. It must vary depending on the nature of the app. But the methodology is consistent from one to the other. If you know of a solid source for mobile data I would love to crunch it.

  • http://sampledandsorted.com davidporter

    Thanks, glad you like it. The 8 limitation is a floor (not a ceiling) tho many mixes are 8 tracks exactly. We daisy-chain the mixes together for a listener in several ways to form a proper internet radio experience. Tracks are uploaded by the DJs of those mixes.

    Whoa, I didn’t realize you used visits – I saw that but assumed you meant “visitors” (I didn’t realize Compete provided visit count). Very cool indeed! Is there any way I could see what that’d look like (even if you don’t publish)? I’d love to be able to show potential investors this visual, including 8tracks.

    You’re right about the latter – I used to compile comparative rankings per Compete on my old WP blog: http://davidporter.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/top-25-music-sites-march-2008/

    Happy to talk through any other points (dp@8tracks.com).

    Thx R!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    I gotcha—I guess I was thinking Twitter style with the limit. I’ll make an updated version for you—give me a week or so. I might add in some of the other sites that people have commented about. Or I might just send you a version with Thumbplay swapped out for 8tracks.

    I dig Compete. Their embeddable charts are esp. nice for close comparisons. I’ve used the free account so far but at some point I might try the Pro one. I’ve used Quantcast a bit too but IMO the data on Compete is so much easier to work with and better presented.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    It’s a tall order LOL—if I can think of a way to do it I will. In the meantime have you seen How Much Do Music Artists Earn Online? As for ASCAP, I had 9 seconds of one song aired on a show on Discovery Channel called Total Wrecklamation. I have no idea how they found it and I haven’t seen it. Everytime it airs I get like 58 cents, which added up to like $10 last year.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Right on—thank you!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    You’re welcome! As for the revenue idea jump to this comment above. Rock on!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    I mentioned MTV at the end of the article in the “bonus tracks” but I couldn’t include it on the map b/c MTV.com isn’t a music site LOL. Next year I’ll include their new mashup mtvmusicmeter.com if it gets the traffic.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Thanks + I hear ya’ on the international thing. That’s why I specified that this was U.S. music consumption. Find me a solid source of international data and I will crunch it. :) I know Quantcast has global/international data but I think I would have have been able to include less sites.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Stereomood would have been 160k visits/month and +163% in 2010. // Next year. ;)

  • http://charliesaidthat.com/digital Charliesaidthat

    Yeah, that infograph is pretty useful, but doesn’t take into account volume of use.

    Thanks again Ryan! :)

  • http://baronhawkey.tumblr.com/ BaronHawkey

    Awesome visualisation. Think that Spotify is out of place here due to the downloadable interface and lack of accessibility by not only Americans but Australians too for example.

    However, one thought, have you considered how much the growth of Last.fm lies in people scrobbling from Spotify? That is exactly what I do. I listen via Spotify Premium but its scrobbled to my Last.fm account. If others are doing similar does this not pose a possible problem in the stats?

    Cheers

  • Rob S

    Hey Ryan great list, you would not happen to have the same list for Europe to see the trends there? Could be a great comparison Thanks Rob

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  • http://sampledandsorted.com davidporter

    That’d be excellent – would love to see the updated version with all of the additions people have noted. This is the best summary of sector competitors I’ve seen to date.

    I like the Compete design too. Wish they were a bit closer to the real numbers but, as you say, the larger sites are prob closer to actual.

    Would also be interesting to compare with comScore. I’m trying to track these down and would be happy to share with you. (I’m in process of creating my ‘Positioning’ slide for investor deck so topical.)

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  • Guest

    Where’s Yahoo Music?

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  • Mogenpianist

    Awesome visual representation. I so wish I could get info like this specifically for the classical music sector, as that is my field.

  • dr.Atmo

    8tracks is very nice….

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  • http://twitter.com/jamescridland James Cridland

    Nice bit of visualisation. What would be VERY interesting would be to see how traditional radio services appear on here: the iHeartradio stuff from CBS, as an example, would be interesting. We know that music radio as a whole is still massive – dwarfing many music services – so it would be interesting to see this share of ‘eartime’. SHOUTcast’s appearance here suggests that radio still has a part to play in this environment.

  • http://twitter.com/Navigatepartner Peggy Dold

    Amazing. Thank you!

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  • http://www.attrip.jp attrip

    That’d be excellent

  • http://smiy.org/ Bob Ferris

    AOL Music – hahahaha, please be serious ;)

  • Tonia

    Hey Ryan, have you ever heard about Spreaker? Would love to check it and give me your feedback.
    http://www.spreaker.com
    Thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/matclayton Mat Clayton

    Hey, i’m one of the co-founders at Mixcloud.

    Loving the charts!

    We have found Compete to be laughably wrong for us, its out by several orders of magnitude. Probably has something to do with our audience being mainly European, Compete seems to favour US based traffic. In general we have found alexa to be the more accurate, but even that is pretty far off.

    Try giving alexa a go, doesn’t gives absolute values, but for comparisons like this it seems to give better results.

  • Anonymous

    For next year’s list, be sure to check out mflow. It has a very cool twitter-esque interface. While I prefer Grooveshark for building my own playlists and listening to tunes, mflow has a far better interface for music-based social networking. Although it’s currently in beta, I expect it’ll pick up steam in 2011.

  • http://gilsmusic.bandcamp.com Gilsmusic

    This is incredibly useful information. Thank You for compiling this. It must have been a lot of hard work but great end result! I have to acknowledge Bran at http://projectswebhoporg.wall.fm/ for turning me onto this article. Bran supports us small independent artists. Out of all the sites you list here the biggest audience for my music is on YouTube but biggest actual purchasers of my music come from BandCamp. BandCamp is great! No social network or advertising cluttering up your site and no silly ratings or comments system. Artist stats for BandCamp are incomparable! (no I don’t work for BandCamp…lol). Check out my BandCamp page at:

  • Colin

    The Vevo views are also aggregated from Youtube views of Vevo content for the 2MM Vevo visitors for 45MM Lady Gaga views doesnt quite work like you said.

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  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Thanks Colin—I will mention it in the update. I was also thinking now too that the number on Next Big Sound is a global number, right? Compete’s number for the U.S. so that throws of the comparison too. Are the Vevo-only numbers available on NBS?

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    I’m glad you dig it! + Yes, yes, Bandcamp rules!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    I’ll put it in the list for next year! Thanks :)

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Hadn’t heard about it but looks cool at first glance. I’ll check it out some more. Thanks :)

  • http://www.planetmike.com Michael Clark

    Where’s Live365.com? Their compete number would put them at #16, above Bandcamp.

  • Uconnes

    So very, very awesome.

  • Ned Sherman

    Great chart and analysis Ryan! Hope to see you at #dmfe next week http://www.digitalmusicforum.com/east

  • RichardWhennell

    Not meant to sound stupid, but….Tunecore?

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    The heat map is meant to depict music streaming/download destinations. Tunecore is distribution service rather than a site where one goes to consume music—I didn’t think it fit. Its estimate was 185k visits/month (+50% in 2010) based on December stats from Compete.

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  • http://clarkbattle.myopenid.com/ Calyx

    If Rhapsody is #7 then why isnt it on your heat map? That omission calls the whole thing into question.

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    It’s there (next to AOL).

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  • Travis

    Where is Myxer is all of this?

  • Cabernet

    That’s a very good point but probably almost impossible to track. By nature, it seems like the smaller services pay more to the artists as they have to compete more. For example, I have been researching http://www.dacast.com and artists get 88% of the profit from pay per views and there are artist paid ad options as well… but they are a small organization.

    The other ones have the economics of scale on their side where they can generate more traffic on their own and potentially bring in more money. As you mention though, things like Youtube are misleading as you have to be a big time player yourself to merit earning the big bucks there.

    A report like that would be fantastic to read, as it interests me the most. Widespread appeal is good, but at the end of the day I need to make sure I’m generating a certain amount of money so I don’t have to rush my other work simply to stay at a certain “income level”. I do hope we see something like that developed here, no matter how hard it might be.

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  • Steve Sin

    How come iTunes isn’t represented?

  • Steve Sin

    Nevermind….I saw it in there, but it would only be 40% the size of Pandora??? Amazing….My record label, GI Jams, who is shopping us to the majors made us take down our stuff from iTunes and all the sites because the majors don’t like to see music spread all over the place until they can get their grubby mitts on the music themselves…..

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  • Michael Ferrone

    awesome, intriguing, helpful, enlightening, informative … great job.thanks.

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  • http://twitter.com/stevenklein Steve Klein

    Ryan V.E. killin it with them infographics as always! Glad to see Reverb in the green.

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  • http://twitter.com/Soundstatues Soundstatues

    Hi, just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate this info.  As a completely independent artist, it’s people like you who make the rough world of music a little easier.  Looking forward to the 2011 map!

  • http://twitter.com/ryanve ryanve

    Absolutely man—there will definitely be a 2011 map. In the meantime, check out this thesis project.

  • http://twitter.com/Soundstatues Soundstatues

    Bookmarked!

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